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Work Room - Week 13

One of the things that I liked about this week's topic http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/997016.html (beyond the obvious, that folks may remember that it was posted above the door when they first signed up) was that there are different translations of the same line.

So differences in translations is definitely one of the many ways to go that aren't as "obvious".

I'm giving you that one for free. ;)


I know that personally, when I sit down and write, there's definitely a part of me that "abandons hope" and doesn't come out until I'm done with whatever I'm working on, which is when the self-doubt shows up. You?

How do you deal with it?


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Mar. 24th, 2017 02:33 am (UTC)
I have a hate-hate relationship with writing. I honestly don't know why I continue to do it. I think it's because I love the feeling of having written.

RE the topic, Wikipedia says: "Dante passes through the gate of Hell, which bears an inscription ending with the famous phrase "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate", most frequently translated as "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." Dante and his guide hear the anguished screams of the Uncommitted. These are the souls of people who in life took no sides; the opportunists who were for neither good nor evil, but merely concerned with themselves."

I'm going to have to try really REALLY hard to make something out of this topic that is not political.
Mar. 24th, 2017 03:12 am (UTC)
I don't deal with it.
I succumb to despair every single time. I've never committed a single one of my stories to paper...

OK, fine, things aren't quite *THAT* bad... but it's definitely rough. Usually, though, my single biggest hurdle is just coming up with an idea that I like to even the slightest degree... because without that, I don't even have a goal to strive for. Once I have that idea, then I'll usually find a way to "muddle through". Oh, it's a struggle for me to put "ass in chair" most of the time, and usually getting the story out of my head and onto the paper is a slow, arduous process... but if I have a clear idea of the tale I want to tell then at least I feel like there's some point to the effort... and as long as I have the time and I don't have major distractions (health issues, friends or family begging me to help them with a problem, etc.), then I'll eventually get the story written.

One last thing I will say: Every once in a great while, there is no struggle. Sometimes the story just flows out of me, and the process takes no effort at all. That usually occurrs when the tale is near and dear to my heart... and whenever that happens, I simply say that "the Muse was kind". I wish it happened much more frequently... but I doubt that will ever happen.
Mar. 24th, 2017 03:17 am (UTC)
Pirates of the Caribbean <33333 That's what I think of when I hear that phrase.

My hurdle is usually getting started. I have SO many ideas swimming in my head. I write things in my head long, long before I ever write them down. But somehow there is often a stumbling block between the idea in my head and starting. Like I start to worry that it's not going to be good written down and then I procrastinate and procrastinate and procrastinate and the worry grows and grows. Which really is why I like Idol and fic fests and anything with deadlines. Because then I have to stop worrying and just start writing, and once I start I'm fine. It's just the whole getting started is the issue.
Mar. 24th, 2017 05:50 am (UTC)
Me too! (Except the worrying lasts alllll the way through hitting the submit button, and several times I stop writing and say, "Why do I even put myself through this and who will want to read it anyway?" It's like, part of my writing process I would love to omit.)
Mar. 24th, 2017 06:53 am (UTC)
My hurdle is usually getting started. I have SO many ideas swimming in my head. I write things in my head long, long before I ever write them down. But somehow there is often a stumbling block between the idea in my head and starting.

Or, as I say, things sometimes get lost in translation between the writing in my head and what my fingers transcribe. The other thing is sometimes I'll come up with what I think is a terrific *take* on a topic while I'm at work and I'll spend my entire shift writing it in my head and visualizing exactly what I'm going to transcribe. Then I leave work, drive home, sit down at my laptop, and can only recall a shred of what I'd mentally written :p

I've been told to scribble down my idea(s) while they're hot but it's difficult to do if I'm already juggling several things at once.

Oh, and just for kicks, if I sit down and ponder an idea chances are I either will come up blank or I'll think of something I'll dislike. My best thinking always happens when I'm doing something else.

Edited at 2017-03-24 06:55 am (UTC)
Mar. 24th, 2017 12:18 pm (UTC)
Mine's not getting started, it's keeping going. If I don't keep up a routine six days out of seven I'll lose my momentum and get frustrated. If I'm going to get something done I have to chip away at it regularly until it's finished. "Regularly" is the key word there.
Mar. 24th, 2017 12:21 pm (UTC)
Tangentially related, the oldest surviving feature-length film is L'Inferno from 1911. Like everything else in the world, it's on Youtube. Not a bad little film.
Mar. 24th, 2017 01:01 pm (UTC)
I have two problems. The first is to come up with an idea I can write about. Bad ideas generally come to mind, and then stay there for far too long. I think they have a party. Then there's the writing, which comes in stops and starts, mostly stops. It's like a bus ride that stops everywhere and I'm lucky if it gets to the end without breaking down.
Mar. 25th, 2017 02:31 am (UTC)
Self doubt is always there for me. I either ignore it, or I continue to doubt many years later. Maybe it's genetic?

Mar. 25th, 2017 03:50 pm (UTC)
I never abandon hope. It's the only reason to write, for me.

My problem is always in the specificity of the prompt. The more specific it is, the more difficult it is to create something that's both unique and still related to the topic. I kind of dodged a trolley that week of "the Trolley Problem" because it was one of those that fell into that category and I needed a bye no matter what the prompt was.

But I think the key, for me, when facing a prompt of this type is in taking a few moments to examine as many possibilities as you dare = what does it mean? what can it mean? what does it definitely NOT mean - and how could that be the actual meaning?

It's pointless to have self-doubt. Most of the pieces I write, I'm writing for me. If I like it, then I'm okay with it. If I don't, that just means I'm not done writing.
Mar. 26th, 2017 04:08 am (UTC)
Question -

For those of us who are newbies, and have never been around after being eliminated before, how does one play the home game?
Mar. 26th, 2017 05:30 am (UTC)
Easy peasy!

When Gary posts the topic, you write a post/entry just like usual, except you don't link it as a comment on the topic thread. Instead you post the link in comments in the Green Room, or I like it when people post it in a comment on the Voting post.

In busy seasons, when several people are home gaming, Gary posts a separate "Home Game" post for people to link their entries. That's usually late in the season after a bunch of die-hards are eliminated. ;)

Yay home gaming!

(also, fyi for newbies, it's good to home game, because every once in a while there will be a "special power" someone can earn, and every now and then that special power is to bring someone back into the game, and usually whoever gets the power picks someone who's been staying active in the Green Rooms and/or home gaming.) Disclaimer - I have no idea whether that will happen this season or not.
Mar. 26th, 2017 03:53 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much. I'll do that. This week will be an interesting, if difficult, topic to write on. My mom will have been gone a year as of this Tuesday, and I have been thinking a lot about despair and hope lately. It is all in my brain, but we'll see if it will cooperate to get onto paper/screen.
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