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There is a poll up with all the new entries: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/854356.html

I was really impressed with the entries, and I hope everyone checking them out will be as well.

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When I was typing Celena's for her (from her printed version) I told her "I'm going to type this exactly as you wrote it - including spacing and any spelling mistakes". She asked me why I would do that. It was what she wrote, as she wrote it. That's important.

Granted, she's 11. If she were younger, I would probably do a few edits. ;)

Also - that's just me! I have things going on in my head that other people don't.

It did get me curious though, where other people's heads are at with the editing. Obviously, this isn't like we're dealing with adults. Should I be "cleaning up" her work? (she certainly thinks I should be! :D) Should I not?

Where is that cut-off?

Heck, many "regular Idol" contestants have beta-readers who "clean up" their work! So is there really that big of a difference? Am I just being too difficult and need to relax a bit about it? ;)

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I've had people ask me if these entries are "counting toward the Entries Written For Idol" total. Of course they are.

Current count: 19,958. 42 entries until we hit 20,000!! With enough Home Gaming over the next couple of weeks, we *could* hit it during Idol Minor!

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Also:

HELLO LITTLE PIG. I LOVE YOU.

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piggington
May. 19th, 2015 01:53 pm (UTC)
HI HELLO THIS IS LITTLE PIG THANK YOU I LOVE YOU TOO I LOVE EVERYBODY YOU ARE MY BESTFRIEND

I THINK EDITING THE PAPER FOR CELENA IS VERY IMPORTANT WHENEVER I'M PROFESSOR PIGGINGTON AND HAVE TO GRADE PAPERS I HAVE A VERY EFFECTIVE METHOD: I TEAR LONG STRIPS OFF OF THE PAPER AND IF IT'S A PARTICULARLY GOOD PAPER I WAVE IT AROUND IN THE AIR FOR A BIT BEFORE CHEWING ON IT AND IF IT'S REALLY REALLY GOOD I'LL STRAIGHT UP EAT IT BUT DON'T TELL THE PEOPLEHUMANS BECAUSE THEY CLAIM THAT I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT BUT WHAT DO THEY KNOW NEITHER ONE OF THEM IS A SUPER SMART PROFESSOR OF BIRDS AT A UNIVERSITY LIKE I AM

I HOPE MY EDITING TIPS HELPED YOU THANK YOU I LOVE YOU

kandigurl
May. 19th, 2015 03:19 pm (UTC)
That's a good point about the beta readers. What about going over it with her before typing up a final version you both agree on? If anything, editing then going over it with her will make her a better writer! Even professional novelists have editors.

I think the most important thing is to not re-write what she wrote. Fixing spelling mistakes is one thing, but more than that gets into the sticky business of "Is this cheating?" Or not.

Maybe if she has friends that like to write, they could be beta readers for her, then the help would still be coming from her age group? It's an interesting conundrum!
snarkerdoodle
May. 19th, 2015 06:45 pm (UTC)
Where is that cut-off?

I think it's somewhere in between "no help" and "fixing everything" for the age you referenced. For spelling, for example, I might turn it into a bit of a teaching moment / game -- "there are four words in there that are mis-spelled, can you find them?" and so on. Give the nudge that the errors are there, but see if they can figure it out and fix it on their own.
adoptedwriter
May. 19th, 2015 07:24 pm (UTC)
In school kids do "peer editing". They find a bud who can give it a look and offer advice. I'd only edit here for a kid contestant if it prevents them from embarrassing themselves like accidentally typing the word for ' whole' or 'sheet' wrong. I'm personally reading and appreciating the thought in the entry since it's impossible to fairly judge a kindergarten kid and a 12- yr-old on composition skills.
AW
favoritebean
May. 19th, 2015 11:05 pm (UTC)
Since my daughter has no idea how to type, I've decided to do the editing route. That said, I got in trouble by not including her "Boogie woogie" song at the end of her story.

It's entirely possible that I may transcribe every little thing for her next entry. When I read through the entries, I found that the typos were endearing, and showcased what you would see in scholastic and artistic situations offline. Since we are here to support the contestants, I'm fine with the typos and spelling errors. It's possible that when you host Teen Idol, polished entries may be more of an issue then.

Unrelated, LITTLE PIG IS VERY CUTE! (My daughter is a fan already).

Edited at 2015-05-19 11:06 pm (UTC)
piggington
May. 19th, 2015 11:28 pm (UTC)
HI HELLO THIS IS LITTLE PIG YES I AM THE CUTEST I AM SO SO CUTE LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS CUTENESS IN REAL LIFE OR LET'S BE HONEST HERE YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS BUTTFLUFF EITHER

I'VE WATCHED MY PEOPLELADY PLAY LJ IDOL BEFORE BUT THE CONTEST WAS NEVER OPEN TO GUINEA PIGS WELL TECHNICALLY I GUESS IT STILL ISN'T BUT I'M ALLOWED TO PLAY THE HOME GAME THIS TIME I LIKE THE HOME GAME BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT I GET TO MAKE SO MANY NEW FRIENDS BUT ALSO GO TO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND CHEW ON ALL THEIR STUFF OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT GARY TOLD ME BECAUSE HE APPRECIATES THAT I AM AN EXCELLENT CHEWER THANK YOU I LOVE YOU
tonithegreat
May. 20th, 2015 01:55 am (UTC)
This is really fun!
I am just popping in here to say, "Thanks a million!" to everyone who has commented on my daughters' stuff. This has been such a great experience for them so far. Better than I would have imagined! Tuesdays are crazy full days for us, so they didn't get a chance to do many responses today, but tomorrow once they get home from school, they are exited to interact with everyone!

It made my heart super happy for them to light up at seeing what was happening here. There is hope for the internet of future after all!
clauderainsrm
May. 20th, 2015 01:40 pm (UTC)
Re: This is really fun!
I'm really glad that everyone seems to be having a good time so far.

I knew that *I* would - but I was hoping that the kids would be "into it".

tonithegreat
May. 20th, 2015 02:01 am (UTC)
Re: editing, I think there is a range of good choices. I apparently have one daughter who uses the spell check feature of her ipad mini without reservation or prompting and one who blissfully ignores red underlines. I will talk to them both about how those things work, but I kinda think it is awesome that one wants to type out each word herself.
cheshire23
May. 20th, 2015 03:58 am (UTC)
For qween394, who is nine: She types in Word. I give it a read-over, a few reminders of how things are done in books she reads and that maybe she should do them there, technical assistance with formatting if she needs it, and copy to post.

For happinydancer, who is six: I expected to be typing out what she told me, but she wanted to type it herself, so she did and I copied it into the post. I fixed obvious weird formatting (like there being spaces before periods) but otherwise it was all her.

Edited at 2015-05-20 03:59 am (UTC)
clauderainsrm
May. 20th, 2015 01:42 pm (UTC)
You're lucky.

I've been getting the "I can't write on a computer". So she does it long-hand.

11 years old and already an "artist". ;)
lawchicky
May. 20th, 2015 04:16 pm (UTC)
Olivia did the same thing- writing her entry out on paper and then I helped her type it up. It was fun because I had a blog article due, so we sat next to each other and each worked on our writing. I have to thank Gary for giving us the opportunity to do something like this. It felt very special and was a good bonding opportunity, and she can't wait to do it again :)

As for editing, I did point out one spelling error and helped her re-work the grammar in one of her sentences, but otherwise left the piece as she wrote it. I actually think it may be a good exercise for us to look at the piece again in 6-8 months and see if she sees anything that she thinks needs editing.
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