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Green Room - Week 34 - Day 2

There are still some things that I'm thinking about, that I don't quite have a response to quite yet. But since when does "not knowing what to say" stop me from posting? ;)

Instead of concentrating on what I *don't* know what to say - I'll focus on what I *do* know what to say...

First and foremost - thank you to everyone who sent emails: The people who wanted to let me know that they supported me, and those who emailed to let me know that they disagreed/were upset with what I said yesterday. Both groups love Idol. They just have different opinions on some things. Which is bound to happen in a group as diverse as ours. In the big picture - It's a really good thing.

I'm just glad when people come to me with things. Regardless of how loudly they are yelling, or how much they are praising (and everything in between). Because it means that although I'm *am* the scary man coming after you... people still know that my door is open and that I'm willing to listen. That's also a really good thing.

The "center of the storm" and I have talked and everything seems fine between us. Which makes me very happy. But I do still want to say something about the fall-out and what it means for going forward. That's what I haven't quite wrapped my head around yet. It's coming though.

It's not something that I'm taking lightly. Hopefully, regardless of where you stand on the issue, you know that much about me.

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So anyway, some things that I *can* talk about:

How its not very surprising to find people at odds over a spreadsheet. I said this at the tail end of the last Green Room and I'll repeat it for those who missed it: Controversy over spreadsheets and what collected data actually means and *doesn't mean* isn't new. It's been happening since Season 3 when the first spreadsheets started being assembled and distributed among friends.

There are some people who swear by data collection and think that it is solid and other people who think there's a lot more to it, and that the data will never survive contact with humanity in action. The same is true for those who track voting patterns in general. Knowing that so-and-so had 23 votes doesn't mean much unless you know where the votes came from and how many of them are repeat voters. Heck, there's a lot of information on motivations that even *I* don't have, so I can't even answer things fully about "why did such and such happen" other than to look at what I had and be able to verify that it did! :)

Arguments over spreadsheets and data collection is always good for a few dust-ups and yesterday proved that was still a viable way of getting people talking!

Perhaps there is a SECRET ALLIANCE who is attempting to control the vote, selectively using the information they collect in spreadsheets!!!

(*sits back and watches the comments roll in* Secret alliances are another favorite topic toward the end of a season!)

Some of them may be aliens.

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I'm incredibly proud to say that this week's Quick Fire managed to attract 10 out of the remaining 15 contestants! Last week it was 8 out of 17. We're definitely headed in the right direction! I haven't read them yet, but I'm looking forward to it. I know our Judges are as well. They will be giving me their decision tomorrow.

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Our Topic though is looking a little lonely: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/826357.html

Hopefully it gets some friends soon!

If you are having any trouble with it - check out the Work Room http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/826776.html for help!

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kickthehobbit
Jan. 21st, 2015 05:08 am (UTC)
...if I'm the center of the storm...does this mean we call it "Hurricane Jenn"?

...just a thought. :P

Also I'm happy to declare that I'm in a SUPER SEEEEKRIT alliance...with the queen of the goddam fairies.

She's promised that if I give her my true name I will go far in Idol!

Joke's on her, I hate my given name.

Edited at 2015-01-21 05:09 am (UTC)
clauderainsrm
Jan. 21st, 2015 05:13 am (UTC)
There is a Hold Steady song for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEU_2WSLJEE

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roina_arwen
Jan. 21st, 2015 05:08 am (UTC)
First... Okay, second!! Now off to read actual content...

Edited at 2015-01-21 05:09 am (UTC)
kickthehobbit
Jan. 21st, 2015 05:09 am (UTC)
lj says we posted at the same time. Share the FRIST! cookies? ;)
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swirlsofblue
Jan. 21st, 2015 06:55 am (UTC)
I find the notion of swearing by data fascinating. Perhaps if every single variable was accounted for, but this is hard at the best of times let alone in LJ Idol. We know relatively little about each others personal lives, these would be massive factors in a person's ability to write an entry. And we know relatively little about which factors might effect other factors, when is correlation not causation? How much are we going to consider outliers and multi-colinearity?
anyonesghost
Jan. 21st, 2015 03:52 pm (UTC)
Well, we know very little about each other. Gary knows more about us. And I'm sure LJ itself has a decent amount of data on our access patterns, posting habits, the linguistics of what we write, mood over time. Depending upon your browser settings, they may be seeing what other websites you visit, get a feel for other social media use, and then start parsing that into an interesting picture of this particular account.

... which they can they correlate with datasets from other companies, all the better to advertise to you. Trick is, you need enough of it to make an informed decision. But it's out there, for those who can find it -- data is yesterday's wave of the future.
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halfshellvenus
Jan. 21st, 2015 07:12 am (UTC)
Damn, looks like I need to go back and read the prior Green Room again. I came in mid-way through, and was done before any controversy unrolled.

I did see some part of a conversation about the late-game twist in Exhibit B, and I still hate all that as much as I did at the time. So there's that. Which was then.

But otherwise, I freely invoke the Vague Happy Dance on Idol's behalf.

And now head to bed, as my business unit's manager called an 8:30am meeting and also made it clear that he wants everyone there in spite of the inconvenient hour. Yarg. :(
vaudy
Jan. 21st, 2015 01:55 pm (UTC)
Heh, I consider 8:30 cushy. I can take a shower and eat breakfast! But I start at 5am twice a week. Four times this past week. D: And 7am on a fairly regular basis.
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fodschwazzle
Jan. 21st, 2015 07:23 am (UTC)
If it helps the conversation, I have a sheetspread with everyone's name on it. I will put it in the dryer with a couple of uncapped black dry-erase markers to see whose name gets marked out.

It would be funny if it hadn't happened in real life. To my wife's clothes. Due to me not emptying pockets.
jexia
Jan. 21st, 2015 07:27 am (UTC)
Oh. Dear.
xo_kizzy_xo
Jan. 21st, 2015 08:46 am (UTC)
I am not a data-collecting type. Never have been, never will be. I just don't have the patience. Just reading Jenn's description of how she came to make up her spreadsheet made my eyes glaze over (I congratulate her on her patience/dorkiness/resourcefulness, of course, but it makes my head go all explodey.)

In other words, it never would have occurred to me to make a spreadsheet like hers. Any time this has come up in prior seasons my reaction is the same: Really?!? My STEM-addled brain does not comprehend this at all...


Edited at 2015-01-21 08:47 am (UTC)
clauderainsrm
Jan. 21st, 2015 03:27 pm (UTC)
What is your Favorite Idol Secret Alliance of all time???
clauderainsrm
Jan. 21st, 2015 03:43 pm (UTC)
I'm sure I'll offend some alliance with this - but off-the-top of my head, I'd say "No Cookie Three" had the best name. But Sheep_Stations probably had the most impact on a season.
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suesniffsglue
Jan. 21st, 2015 04:03 pm (UTC)
I miss everything!
clauderainsrm
Jan. 21st, 2015 05:21 pm (UTC)
The Green Room doesn't have that many posts - but I really want to make sure people see this particular thread:

http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/827330.html?thread=78656706#t78656706
ryl
Jan. 21st, 2015 08:54 pm (UTC)
I have nothing to add to the conversation except a Home Game entry.
lrig_rorrim
Jan. 22nd, 2015 01:26 am (UTC)
Hey, Gary, quick question. You said the Quick Fire results would be posted "tomorrow" - was that tomorrow from last night, or uh, tomorrow from today? Just wondering when-ish to expect them. Thanks!
clauderainsrm
Jan. 22nd, 2015 01:36 am (UTC)
That was tomorrow as in tonight. :)

Still waiting on the last Judge - and much like last week, it is going to come down to that last Judge. This is as tight as the polls, if not more so.
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dmousey
Jan. 22nd, 2015 06:05 am (UTC)
I know I'm a newb, but I would pick Whipchick. I learned so much from her simple critiques and kind editing on a SINGLE piece. Someone who cares that much about someone they've never met, is someone you can trust your life with. She remembers the human behind the words.

Besides she's a damn fine writer! :)
whipchick
Jan. 22nd, 2015 12:27 pm (UTC)
Wow, thank you :) I love words and I'm glad we have that in common! And it's been such a pleasure seeing your work grow!
dmousey
Jan. 22nd, 2015 06:24 am (UTC)
Whipchick- is this newbs choice! I said it somewhere else on this GR post I think. :)
whipchick
Jan. 22nd, 2015 12:30 pm (UTC)
TEAAAAAAAAMMMMMS!
To quote Heidi Klum from *my* favorite reality competition.

TEAMS!

Evil Overload, pit us against each other in team competition! SEA-SON TEN! SEA-SON TEN! SEA-SON TEN!
theun4givables
Jan. 22nd, 2015 12:32 pm (UTC)
Re: TEAAAAAAAAMMMMMS!
Okay, I am actually down for this.

Like, SO down for this.

n3m3sis43, I call dibs! She's mine! MINE.
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dmousey
Jan. 22nd, 2015 09:48 pm (UTC)
I'm in. :) Sounds interesting. I love interesting.
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