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Green Room - Week 28 - Day 1

"By the Numbers" - because I know there are definitely some folks here that enjoy an assortment of facts:

I've tried something a little different the last couple weeks when it comes to voting. I've been trying to raise some awareness of the fantastic writing that is happening here.

The first week I tried advertising through Livejournal itself. Virtually no response and there isn't really a report to measure the numbers.

So the following week(s) I've gone with Facebook, to see what the difference was.

Per Facebook, the voting post reached the "eyes" of 1,244 people. I use quotes because that just means that they scrolled past it while they were on their phone or computer. Of those people, *26* of them clicked through to the link.

Of those, 3 of them are now following LJ Idol on FB.

How many of them actually voted? There were a total of *6* votes from Facebook, and most of those were names that I'd seen before. (Note: none of the "new followers" actually voted)

(Note: There were also 2 votes from Google+ and 2 votes from Twitter - in other words, there were 10 votes cast from non-LJ accounts. Out of 137!)

I know that building up a name is something that happens slowly and through repetition. But when I saw that icon on poll say that it had been shared on FB "69 times", I was expecting a bigger bang than that! (It went from 11 normally, to 47 to 69 in the weeks where there has been advertising, which means that the LJ "FB shares" thing might be adding some numbers to the count based on FB's repostings)

The good news in all of that - there seems to be only 2 people (and the second one is a "maybe") who "double voted" (used more than one account), and it didn't impact anything. That's always a concern, which is why I keep an eye on it. (I'll be talking to them later, I'm sure it was an oversight)

Ultimately, what this means is the best form of promotion is still word of mouth. If you love what you are seeing here: TELL YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT IT. Get them to show up and get to read, and support, some really talented new writers!

(Sure, they might originally come just to support you, but if they are reading, they are bound to find some other great folks as well!)


More numbers, because of the tie, we are now at 51 contestants. So we're hanging on the edge of that Top 50.

Which means this week is *the* last time to use your byes and the last chance for the Power of Veto to be used.

There appear to be 11 people remaining who still have one to use, and one person with two!


Just went through and updated the "approximate number of LJ Idol entries" figure. These are entries that were created for LJ Idol: 19,639. Not bad. I wonder who is going to end up writing #20,000???


Nov. 14th, 2014 02:27 pm (UTC)
The most "single votes" that anyone received was 8.
Followed by someone with 6, and someone with 5 and from there the bulk of the single votes are all over the place with a few here and there.
Nov. 14th, 2014 02:48 pm (UTC)
I never said one person got that many single votes. I said there were that many voters - probably a few more - who only voted for one contestant.
Nov. 14th, 2014 02:53 pm (UTC)
I know you didn't. (someone else did though)

I was just clarifying for anyone else who was curious.

Nov. 14th, 2014 02:58 pm (UTC)
That's fine, but for the record, if my number is inaccurate, it's because it's low, not high. 36 is how many happened in isolation where it could be observed.
Nov. 14th, 2014 03:07 pm (UTC)
Maybe, maybe not. There are some of us who vote for just ourselves just in case we can't read a poll (this is what I do), and then revise our votes later (and therefore no longer voting for just one individual).

There are also instances of people updating votes and forgetting to reclick so they only vote for one person.

So I can definitely see how the numbers might be inaccurate. In the end, Gary would know for sure because he can see who voted for whom. :)
Nov. 14th, 2014 03:23 pm (UTC)
Makes sense in theory, but those factors were already accounted for. You can see when votes are added without the voter count going up, and you can see when votes are taken away. :)
Nov. 14th, 2014 03:27 pm (UTC)
The number of people who've voted won't change, no, when you go back to revote/change your votes. But if you caught me voting while I only voted for myself, that counts as one of your "single votes" when it's really not the case, y'know? Because I DID later go back to edit who I voted for. My one vote was a single vote at the one time you glanced at the poll -- but it didn't stay that way, ykwim? I'm sure there are plenty of other people who have done the same thing.

The fact of the matter is, Gary knows who voted for what, and who voted only once. He sees all of the information of the poll.
Nov. 14th, 2014 03:30 pm (UTC)
You subtract the number of times the voter count changed and then you still have a good estimate.

ETA: I'm absolutely not saying my information is more accurate than Gary's. All I have is a pretty educated guess that can be inferred from publicly available data.

And ANYTHING that happens in the same short interval will be invisible to that analysis. I can see 4 times that votes were added by a voter who had voted previously. There could be more. But to the same point, there could be more single voters mixed in at times when several people voted.

YMMV and all that. I just thought it was interesting.

Edited at 2014-11-14 04:23 pm (UTC)
Nov. 14th, 2014 04:40 pm (UTC)
Looking at, and interpreting data is definitely interesting.

My only real concern was to make sure people who were worried about the security of their ballot knew that someone wasn't able to see it - or figure out specifically who was casting votes for which contestant when.

Of course, with every data collection, there is always the questions of "why is it collected" and "what do you do with it once collected".

Personally, I hope that people who see it, and are concerned about "single voters" use their influence to encourage folks to urge people to read as many entries as possible. Because if you do, there's no way you're not going to find something else that is awesome.

(and you *do* see people who come in as "single voters" more than a couple times start to branch out and vote for more people. They come in once or twice, sure... but it's a marathon for voters as well, and once they are here, they tend to get sucked in as well. :D That's where so many of our writers over the years have come from, people who showed up to support their friend.)
Nov. 14th, 2014 06:23 pm (UTC)
All good points!

I would love to see the single vote getters being the ones to encourage their supporters to branch out (although that doesn't mean those people will have the time to do so every week).

And I second your comment about the privacy of the ballot. Should've included a disclaimer - this is all from public data. I am not having a secret peek behind the curtain!
Nov. 14th, 2014 08:11 pm (UTC)
Thanks - all interesting info.

I was mostly confused because I couldn't see a way to get that info and was frustrated I was using the poll wrong XD


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