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Work Room - Week 26/LCI Week 5

Two groups. One Work Room for topics that are happening side by side: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/797204.html and http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/797508.html

This should make things interesting!

Most of you have been at this for awhile now. But some are still relatively fresh, or have at least rested. Perhaps being able to bounce things around with someone who has new eyes to the process will be helpful!


You're quite a way into Season 9, with an end maybe not quite "in sight" but you are at least a lot closer. What has been the best thing you have created (so far) this season?
What has been the one that has been the best received?

Has there been a difference between what you think of a piece and what people seem to think about it, and how does that impact your work going forward? *Should* it?


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Oct. 24th, 2014 03:07 am (UTC)
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Oct. 24th, 2014 03:24 am (UTC)
Well, obviously my first thought was "Old school medleymisty rant time!" I mean, the whole cutting down the tall poppies, envy, etc. - that's my specialty right there.

But then I realized that's what everyone would think, and that I needed a more unique take on the topic.
Oct. 24th, 2014 03:29 am (UTC)
I'm not sure about best thing so far this season, but my favorite piece so far was in week 13 - The Alien Out Back. It was fun to write, fun to think about, and just overall fun.

My best received piece so far this season was actually my piece for week 1 - But I'm not joking.... The piece was interesting to write, and went over really well considering the voice and the punchline...

Some of the stuff that I really spent a lot of time with and agonized over haven't done as well in the voting as entries that I basically tossed off as a first draft of a first idea and just went with. For me it makes figuring out how to write future entries difficult, since I obviously don't have the best handle on what the readers/voters are looking for all the time.

When it comes down to it though I write for me, so as long as I enjoy the end result, no matter how tortured the process of getting it out is sometimes, it's all worth it.
Oct. 24th, 2014 03:58 am (UTC)
Oh dear lippy... this is going to be veddy veddy interesting... cause right now, I got nothing... yep, nothing
Oct. 24th, 2014 03:59 am (UTC)
Let's join the 'nothing' club, because I'm in a similar boat.
Oct. 24th, 2014 04:00 am (UTC)
So perhaps it's because Halloween is around the corner, but I have been writing cynical creepy pasta in my spare time. I wonder if the topic could fit into such a piece?

As for the questions you ask, let me give that some thought. My personal favorite was the intro post, which I think if reworked could go as a children's story. It was fairly well received too. The most popular might have been the memoir about the poisoned latte in Rome.

Edited at 2014-10-24 04:03 am (UTC)
Oct. 24th, 2014 04:03 am (UTC)
Wait this might help...

A syndrome where a group of like situated people hurt those in their community attempting to get ahead.
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Oct. 24th, 2014 04:01 am (UTC)
So, here's Urban Dictionary's explanation on the topic. I've heard "fish in a barrel" before, but crabs are a new one on me: Crabs in a Barrel

This is Wikipedia's take for "Crab Mentality":
Crab mentality, sometimes referred to as crabs in the bucket, is a phrase that describes a way of thinking best described by the phrase "if I can't have it, neither can you." The metaphor refers to a pot of crabs. Individually, the crabs could easily escape from the pot, but instead, they grab at each other in a useless "king of the hill" competition which prevents any from escaping and ensures their collective demise. The analogy in human behavior is that members of a group will attempt to "pull down" (negate or diminish the importance of) any member who achieves success beyond the others, out of envy, conspiracy or competitive feelings.

Hope that helps!
Oct. 24th, 2014 04:04 am (UTC)
That's hilarious Ro! I just visited the same page!! LOL
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Oct. 24th, 2014 04:15 am (UTC)
:sigh: I'll probably have to go gore and terror for this topic. I mean it's the holidays and everyone likes murder and crabs. Or Crab People.

I sort of treasure any good comments so as long as I get a few I feel like the story wasn't horrible. I don't post what I don't like. Dunno what the "best" would be but I liked a handful enough to start submitting them places. I used like a lot in this post. >_>

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Oct. 24th, 2014 04:24 am (UTC)
I must go sleep on this! I am writing for two and need my rest, LOL. Good thing I'm currently nemployed! :)

Sweet dreams and happy thoughts people!
Oct. 24th, 2014 04:24 am (UTC)
As far as Gary's question - the pieces of mine that had the most comments were my Iconic intro, Jayus, Confessions from The Chair, and Sweep the Leg. I don't recall which have done best in the polls, and with the polls displaying wonky it's a bother to go back and try and check.

I agree with Yachiru - I don't post what I don't like, and although I've liked some of my entries more than others, I think they've all been fairly well received. I'm open to opinions and input. :)
Oct. 24th, 2014 04:34 am (UTC)
Best thing for me was the alternative Ragnarok I did pretty much from the start. Some weeks it went over well, others not so well.
Best received for me was this week's LCI entry. Which has me baffled.
I thought my entry last week was much better, but if there had been eliminations last week I'd have been on the brink of them.
Whether it will impact how I write for however long I last, time will tell. For now, this second second wind is pushing me along
Oct. 24th, 2014 05:00 am (UTC)
Greetings... and a little help, please?
Hey, all. Nice to meet you all.

Allow me to (re-)introduce myself: My name is Paul, and my LJ Handle is ellakite, or "El" for short. My username comes from a story I've been working on for a long time. It's complicated.

I got voted out of The Main Competition a while back -- so long ago that I'll understand if nobody here remembers me. In any case, I re-entered the competition via Last Chance Idol... and after a long hard struggle, I just managed to earn a spot here in the Main Game.

So: While on the one hand I'm glad to be back in "The Big Show", I took one look at the current Prompt and have *NO* clue how to approach it. I know some folks would consider it improper for a near-stranger like myself to request assistance from LJI veterans... but I would deeply, *DEEPLY* appreciate it if folks could pitch a few ideas my way. Seriously, I really could use the help... and I hope some kind soul out there will take pity on a (sorta) noob like myself.


The Real LiveJournal Idol before, it's been so long since I was last here that I doubt anyone here would remember me... and so I guess it's only fair that I re-introduce myself:
Oct. 24th, 2014 05:24 am (UTC)
Re: Greetings... and a little help, please?
You're so funny! :)

There's two links above to The Urban Dictionary definition, and Wiki has a wee article on "crab mentality" that basically both boils down to a meaning of "If I can't have X, neither can you." I'm sure there's a TON of ways to write about that, wherein one person or corporation sabotages another because they have (or are about to have) something fabulous / cutting edge / more popular / more profitable.

I hope that helps a bit... I still have to figure things out for myself, too.
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Oct. 24th, 2014 07:47 am (UTC)
I just saw the topic..and I guess I have already covered it in "Barrel of monkeys" (oppsie)...so well no ideas there..Happy to have a tuesday deadline..:D coz its festival of lights (Diwali) going on here in India..and my net access is restricted.
As for the best received topic.. I guess people enjoyed countdown fiction and Mars and meme and confession from the chair the most..I personally enjoyed doing Improv..I like it when I learn something new..and LJ has not disappointed me at all. Have a lovely weekend Folks..:)
Oct. 24th, 2014 08:29 am (UTC)
Happy Diwali!!!!
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Oct. 24th, 2014 11:56 am (UTC)
Just saying, "crabs in a bucket" could potentially be used to describe any contest where drama abounds and the prize for winning is a LiveJournal icon. XD

My brain has latched onto this topic and twisted it to mean "haters gonna hate." Unfortunately, this makes me want to write fiction with unlikeable characters and I think that only works if I make it clear somehow through the piece that it's what I'm doing. I mean, assuming "haters gonna hate" is even an acceptable interpretation of the topic, but it is to me, dammit.
Oct. 24th, 2014 01:23 pm (UTC)
I'd say it's an acceptable interpretation.
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Oct. 24th, 2014 01:13 pm (UTC)
Audience interpretation shouldn't matter dramatically, but the truth of the matter is that we're writing with the foreknowledge that we're going to be judged. I think there's an inherent tendency to tailor based on that. It feels good to be well received by your peers, after all.

But the material I've written that's done poorly in the polls has often sparked the strongest reaction in those that did like it, y'know? The serial stories I write (either of them) don't always do well in the polls, but the people who like them really like them. So I constantly try to balance writing for myself vs. writing for a "core" audience vs. writing for the world at large.

Judging by comments, though, apparently poetry is my best bet, per Week 1: http://the-lettersea.livejournal.com/39431.html

Although T.S. The Early Years (Week 14) runs a close second: http://the-lettersea.livejournal.com/55187.html
Oct. 24th, 2014 02:12 pm (UTC)
I have a hard time understanding how I do in the polls a lot of the time. Most of the pieces I've been really proud of this season did pretty well in the polls; a couple did worse than almost anything else I've done all season. And I've had weeks where I thought I'd get voted out and did really well in the polls.

So I don't want to say I've given up on trying to please an audience. I'm just not sure I have any idea how to do that. XD
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Oct. 24th, 2014 02:40 pm (UTC)
"Best received" entry I've created this season, as far as the voting goes, was my "Build a Better Mousetrap," piece, with the letters to ACME from Wild E. Coyote, "Super" Genius. ;) Showcasing my sense of humor, the idea was a wild one from a friend, and I just had to run with it. I remember agonizing over it, trying to determine if it was as hilarious to everyone else as it was to me.

Most well-written, in my opinion, was probably my kid-noir piece or my entry for "scare quotes." One of these almost got me booted. ;)n So yes, sometimes there is a difference between what I think of a piece and what the Idol audience thinks. I am okay with this, as long as it doesn't get me eliminated, just yet. ;)

It has more impact than I'd like to admit, sometimes. I go back and forth on what I really want to do, what my psyche needs me to write (the nonfiction), and what I feel will do better in the polls. This go around, I have an idea, but it's pretty fucked up. Like, I was brewing coffee at work when the idea struck, and I had to stop what I was doing and say, "That's fucked up, brain."

My coworkers think I'm crazy. :D Also, I'm trying to decide if its screwed-upness is the reason why I should write it, or if I should deem it the back-up idea. I have another, less wicked idea that I've heard some dialogue for, but I don't know how I feel about it, yet.

I think I just like to see what boundaries Idol will let me break. ;)
Oct. 24th, 2014 06:17 pm (UTC)
I say go for it, but that might be partially revenge for the screwed up things you keep telling me are okay to write for Idol. XD
Oct. 24th, 2014 04:35 pm (UTC)
I think my best received entry this season has been The Gettysburg Address is where Lincoln retired after the war piece.

My favorite? The sex on satin sheets one, mostly because I'd never told that story before.

As far as the topic goes... I come from a very competitive family... I don;t have anything yet, but I'll think of something.
Oct. 25th, 2014 04:45 pm (UTC)

Plus satin is grosser than normal fabric when it gets wet. It just is.
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