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Green Room - Week 27 - Day 3

Some interesting speculation: http://thekingdominsider.com/will-disney-stop-publishing-marvel-comic-books/

As someone who grew up reading comics, and who still occasionally picks them up, is that model of publishing and distribution a dead end? Did the rush to get into the film industry and get a piece of that bigger pie by Marvel and DC basically damn the rest of the industry to losing the shops that are a big way of getting exposure?

Is that even how they get noticed these days, or does the digital platform help level the playing field?

There’s a lot of questions, and not really a lot of answers that I’m seeing right now.

It does make me wonder though given the state that the publishing industry is in, with physical books. At what point does that become completely outdated, or has the scale already tipped on that one and some of us are still catching up?


One link that produces more answers than questions - http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/1038057.html such as “where can I go to read some cool stuff this week while I’m waiting for the Idol poll”?

Although, the major question for that is “Will the rest of the writers still in the competition give Gary a heart attack while he waits for them to post”. The answer to that is “Yes”, yes they will.


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Aug. 7th, 2017 12:13 pm (UTC)
Don't you know by now that "giving Gary a heart attack" is the prime pastime of any Idoler?!?!?


Digital vs. physical books...I've got a Kindle on my tablet, so during my convalescence here I've been scouring and downloading any *free* (because I'm cheap LOL) book that sounds remotely interesting. I've found quite a few compelling novellas (Kindle puts them under "Singles"), one of which by a writer who seems to specialize in them -- she's got about 10 titles, all stand-alones. You have to pay to read the others, of course. That's the crux between anything digital vs. physical, whether it's books or music or what-have-you.

Ordinarily I'd be sending SO to the library to take out X book for me. Our town library has converted one entire floor to Audible-type books. I can "take out" a book digitally using my card number. I've done it a few times. It feels very weird. It makes me think that the physical book doesn't even exist, so you do still call the digital version a book?

Aug. 7th, 2017 02:20 pm (UTC)
I much prefer books to electronic forms. I'm appalled at the high price of books as well as for Kindle. I'm sure that physical print mediums are doomed and will wither away and die. Our library is mostly "community rooms" and computers, with fewer and fewer books.
Aug. 7th, 2017 01:05 pm (UTC)
If Marvel stops publishing physical comic books, it'll be because Disney killed them off. It's just a tossup now whether it will be because because they stop publishing full stop or they keep raising the price of individual issues until they're unsustainable or they reboot them into oblivion. Or they make the storylines so convoluted and full of callbacks that they're nearly impossible for new readers to understand them without reading the entire back catalog.

That last reason is why I've got a big problem with modern geek culture. You can't just start watching/reading/listening to something without reading/watching/listening to everything that's come before plus a lot of miscellaneous novels/guest appearances/fanfics/ravings from some random loon on the corner. I ain't got time for all that.
Aug. 7th, 2017 01:33 pm (UTC)
That last reason is why I've got a big problem with modern geek culture. You can't just start watching/reading/listening to something without reading/watching/listening to everything that's come before plus a lot of miscellaneous novels/guest appearances/fanfics/ravings from some random loon on the corner. I ain't got time for all that.

I'm lucky that SO was a big comic/graphic novel type back in the day because he knows most of the backstories. I have no idea of them. I was never into any of that. But he'll take the time to explain things to me which makes more sense re the context of the movie/show. He even knows some shows that started as comics (Preacher, for example) which I never knew existed before being on TV (TWD is another).
Aug. 7th, 2017 04:48 pm (UTC)
I completely agree on that last part.

I was never ever into comics as a kid. And I couldn't have cared less about Marvel — until the movies. And then I saw Captain America: The Winter Soldier and fell in love. I have so much Marvel stuff now, and I play an Avengers game on my phone that incorporates a lot of the comics characters and canon mixed with MCU canon. And it's fun and it makes me want to read the comics — except there are so many and so many versions and so many rewritings of the same thing and I don't even know where to possibly start, so instead if I want to know something, I just Google.

But I wish there was an easier way to get into them because I would.
Aug. 7th, 2017 06:58 pm (UTC)
One of my biggest problems with New Doctor Who is the sheer number of references to past shows. This past season was the first full NuWho season I've watched and I apparently missed a lot of foreshadowing because I didn't know about River Song and Nardole's previous appearance. Hell, I was halfway through the season before I realized I was right in thinking Missy was the Master!

Yeah, yeah, I could go back and look up all those references but I've got other things to do than watch the twelve past seasons or read the wiki pages on those seasons. I have a life that's not dedicated to keeping up with every tiny little thing that happens of a sci-fi show. That means I'm no longer the target audience. At least that's what it feels like.
Aug. 7th, 2017 03:10 pm (UTC)
Our library's first floor is more of a community room too :/

I prefer physical books too. I love their tactile aspect. OTOH there's a lot less literary clutter around the couch if you have a Kindle. The other thing I don't like about the whole digital thing is that *anybody* can publish. Honestly, many of the stories I've downloaded I can't read because the writing is *that* bad. They all would've been automatically rejected by a traditional publisher.
Aug. 7th, 2017 04:56 pm (UTC)
Whoops, this was in response to rayaso. My phone evidently didn't take that into account for some reason.
Aug. 7th, 2017 03:23 pm (UTC)
I, too, grew up reading comic books and graduated into graphic novels. I think these are an integral part of the reading experience. I've tried to dl a few graphic novels but cannot stand digital commix. At all. I think...manga seems to translate to digital better for some unknown reason....

I prefer printed. And in my mind, I've begun to equate e-books with pulp and trashy romance. LOL!
Aug. 7th, 2017 04:58 pm (UTC)
And in my mind, I've begun to equate e-books with pulp and trashy romance. LOL!

OMG, I've never seen so much trashy romance/pulp in one place at one time than I do perusing Kindle's free ebook offerings :shudder: I read some of the summaries and I'm like, who in their right mind would read something like this? Then I remember that obviously there are a lot of people who do...and then I shut up.
Aug. 7th, 2017 04:52 pm (UTC)
I love physical books, and if it's a book I know I want to keep, I'll get a physical copy. But at the same time, I totally admit I buy way more ebooks that physical books these days. Mostly because I travel a lot for work and I tend to do most of my reading on work trips, but carrying books in my purse usually leads to them getting all beat up and it's just easier to whip out my phone/ipad to read them. Also, I totally love the instant gratification of ordering a book at 2am on Amazon and — boom! — there it is in my ipad all ready for me to read.

Aug. 7th, 2017 05:00 pm (UTC)
I'm finding the ease of use to be a boon, too, especially being laid up. I already hound my husband enough as it is with "Please get me/do XYZ". I don't need to add library trips to the list, LOL.
Aug. 7th, 2017 06:42 pm (UTC)
I still read comic books, about eight titles a month, and a few more that I buy in graphic novel editions. There are very few Marvel or DC offerings on my list anymore - though DC is where I started when I was seven and still has my heart. These days I read a lot of Image comics (creator owned and controlled) and a few tie-in properties from IDW or Dark Horse. I used to get my comics from the Waldenbooks spinner rack - it's a bummer that there are fewer ways in now for young kids if they can't get to a comic book store.

It amuses me that the article mentions comic culture as being a thing that can scare off new folks, with only one exception, every comic book store I've been to has had customers and staff who've been happy to make recommendations, talk about what you're reading, and generally work to keep you coming back. They look scarier than the actually are.
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