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Green Room - Week 18 - Day 3

I finally put up at Home Game thread for those interested: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/920176.html

The main topic thread can be found here: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/919252.html

and the Work Room, for those still hammering out their ideas: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/919439.html

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Apparently the Time magazine Top 100 Most Influential People Reader Poll list came out. I've won so often that they just retired my name from consideration... but there are other not-as-awesome folks on it.

Who would be on YOUR list of "most influential People" in your life?

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rayaso
Apr. 14th, 2016 03:00 pm (UTC)
halfshellvenus, of course.
clauderainsrm
Apr. 14th, 2016 03:12 pm (UTC)
*cough*suckup *cough*

Sorry, I have something in my throat. ;)
clauderainsrm
Apr. 14th, 2016 03:30 pm (UTC)
I ended up in a "discussion" today with two people:

One of them I had previously liked, but due to circumstances saw a different side of and really don't like anymore.

The other is someone that I had previously liked, but due to circumstances saw a different side of and have determined is just fundamentally a shitty human being.

I haven't talked to either in years. But online conversation put us in the same spot.

The 1st person made some valid points that I happened to agree with.

The 2nd? Yeah, they are still a shitty human being. :)

Some things never change!
prog_schlock
Apr. 14th, 2016 07:37 pm (UTC)
I've worked very hard in my life to adhere to the "assume good intentions" credo when dealing with people in real life, but man sometimes I just feel like there are people who have bad intentions for everyone - like people who just want to inflict pain on the people around them. My friend Jonathan likes to say "hurt people hurt people," as in "people who have been hurt badly tend to hurt other people." While this has helped me have some empathy for shitty people (Sympathy for the Devil?), it doesn't really make me feel like I need to subject myself to their presence.

The other credo I work with a bunch is "don't mistake incompetence for malice." The issue here, of course, is that they are sometimes functionally the exact same thing.

I still believe that most people genuinely want good things for other people but just have a hard time recognizing that sometimes what would be best for themselves isn't best for somebody else.

That is my list of homilies for the day.
clauderainsrm
Apr. 14th, 2016 06:31 pm (UTC)
RIP Green Room. 2006-2016.

You will be missed, but apparently not by that many. ;)
clauderainsrm
Apr. 14th, 2016 06:40 pm (UTC)
Mostly kidding, although I will have to take a serious look at who uses the space, and what they want to use it for... maybe as a "twice a week" thing instead of a daily.

But then you never know when someone will feel like bringing something up. :)

(and most people ignore whatever I'm saying anyway and post what they wanted to post!)
prog_schlock
Apr. 14th, 2016 07:42 pm (UTC)
I think this is a function of the changing landscape of the Internet. Facebook et al have gotten us all used to having information come at us (whether we want it to or not). Livejournal is a choice. Like if I don't choose to visit here (or forget its here for months at a time) there's no possible way to interact.

I think there is value in having a daily green room because if there's even less of a reason to visit LJI (because the green room updates are less frequent) then there's less of a reason to comment. You'll note that comments skyrocket up on OH NOES DRAMA days and sort of peter out during more calm times (like the Thursday before entries are due and "holy cats I don't even have a piece close to finished what am I doing here in the green room am I insane").

Anyhow, not that my vote matters, but even short green room entries keep the place alive and create the opportunity for conversation and shenanigans (even if people don't always take advantage of it).

Thank you for keeping the home fire burning!
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bleodswean
Apr. 14th, 2016 08:10 pm (UTC)
Hmmmm.....I've spent a few moments contemplating the GR....and relative silences therein for the most part this season.

I sometimes....find the GR to be not that friendly. But perhaps it's less of that and more of folks not bothering?

I tend to admire nearly everyone I meet. I just am in awe of my fellow travelers (for the most part).
clauderainsrm
Apr. 14th, 2016 08:17 pm (UTC)
I'm quite hostile. But that's because I hate all of you!
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kathrynrose
Apr. 14th, 2016 10:03 pm (UTC)
I've been offline most of the morning.

If you kill the GR, the community will die. Period.

Having fewer GRs don't make people post more in the ones there are, they make people get out of the habit of being in the GR.

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redqueenofevil
Apr. 14th, 2016 07:51 pm (UTC)
Bach, even if he is dead.

I will try to contribute to home game this week.
prog_schlock
Apr. 14th, 2016 07:56 pm (UTC)
THIS IS MY GREEN ROOM TODAY! TAKE IT FROM ME AND PROVE ME WRONG! WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE?

*throws down severed heads of my other LJ identities*

*realizes it was my own head - dies*

Who would be on YOUR list of "most influential People" in your life?

This is a tough question. There's the answer I'd like to give ("David Bowie") and the less glamorous but genuinely true answer (probably my mom and dad).

I find the Time poll to be fascinating. Voters treat it like a popularity contest (you know that Bernie Sanders is going to get a huge bump because right now his most fervent supporters will vote his name anywhere they see it - and good for them that they do). On the other hand, there's a bunch of people that are incredibly influential that I think the majority of humans are barely aware of (even the Koch Brothers, with as much press as they get, are barely a blip on most people's radars next to, for example, Simon Cowell. So conflating "influence" with "popularity" is something we do as a species.

You know who had a huge influence on my life? I have an ancestor from Cohasset, Massachusetts who ran a shipping company. That shipping company was heavily involved in the triagular trade routes. In other words, they were involved in the slave trade. This guy lived like 9 generations ago. He was of English descent.

Now, all these generations later, I'm more Irish and German than English. Going back 9 generations, I have 512 7th great grandparents and I hope that the other 511 weren't huge monsters like this slaver was (let's assume his wife wasn't a monster for the time being). None-the-less, I know this dude was part of my family history and his wealthy allowed him and his immediate descendants to live in comfort which in turn increased the odds that their descendants would mingle with other people who lived in comfort, etc. etc.

Long story short, even if its just a small part of my family history, part of why I can live in relative comfort now is because one of my 512 7th great grandparents did a horrifically evil thing. All of those other ancestors also have had some ripple effect on how I currently live. Human influence is a long reaching and complicated thing, but also a fascinating thing.

(On the other hand, I'm also descended from Samuel Morse, inventor of the Morse code, and he seems to be an admirable and worthy human)
xo_kizzy_xo
Apr. 14th, 2016 08:21 pm (UTC)
Heh, he's from my neck of the woods. I often wonder how many sea captains during that period made their $ on the triangular trade. Walk along the main drag of any of those coastal towns and those grand Victorian ladies with the widow walks are still standing loud and proud. Most of them are still architecturally breathtaking and probably are listed on some historical register. Not far from Cohasset is a lifesaving museum. It was, I think, the original site for what's now the Coast Guard. They show a film where they talk about all the shipwrecks in and around Boston Harbor, and somebody somewhere actually wrote an encyclopedia of them with whatever information they could find. I think for every single ship which made it to port intact there was maybe 2 or 3 which didn't. Gives one a point to ponder.

...oh, this was supposed to be "most influential people", wasn't it? LOL, I tend to get off track sometimes :)



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kathrynrose
Apr. 14th, 2016 10:06 pm (UTC)
Today has been challenging, in a "It's challenging to be with human beings" kind of way.

I was thinking last night about an Idol entry from a while back, maybe season 8 ish, not sure. There was a door in the basement that didn't open and then it did, and I don't remember who wrote it. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
ellakite
Apr. 15th, 2016 01:00 am (UTC)
Some questions are best left unanswered...
... or perhaps, certain people should never be asked the question.

People like me, for instance.

Because I'm the sort of person who will give you an honest answer... and it's most definitely *NOT* the sort of answer that most people want to hear.

So, you're asking me 'Who would be on YOUR list of "most influential People" in your life?'

You're sure you want to know? Really?

Then brace yourself:

My answer is 'My mother and my maternal grandfather'. There's no doubt that they were the two people who influenced my life the most... in the same sense that there's no question that Adolf Hitler was extremely influential in European History during the mid-20th Century...
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