Last night featured
Results: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/62 0418.html
The New Topic: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/62 0811.html
and the New Second Chance Topic: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/62 0730.html
(Note: I ended up giving them an extra hour when I realized that the Survivor premiere was an hour and a half instead of just a hour! Thank Mark Burnett SCIers!)
It also brought up some questions:
What are you folks seeing that you have been really liking? (I’ve been enjoying seeing the experimentation that has been going on with people either trying new things or pushing the creative envelope in general)
What “classic mistakes” have you seen that you can’t believe that people are still making? (for me, it’s starting off talking about the topic. Again, you *can* pull it off, under certain meta or experimental circumstances… The other one that I’ve seen is not being able to stick the ending. Over the last few weeks there have been a few that I’ve gone “If they cut it off *there* it would have been 100% better!) Some of that is personal taste of course. But that’s all anyone has to go by, after all, their own personal taste about what they do and don’t like!
It’s not a question – but since we are in Week 4 I can now say that when I started the mini-season, given that it was a fundraiser, I wanted to make sure that I gave people as much of an opportunity to “get their money’s worth” as I could. That mental cut-off was Week 4. So, now things can start getting interesting!
Results: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/62
The New Topic: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/62
and the New Second Chance Topic: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/62
(Note: I ended up giving them an extra hour when I realized that the Survivor premiere was an hour and a half instead of just a hour! Thank Mark Burnett SCIers!)
It also brought up some questions:
What are you folks seeing that you have been really liking? (I’ve been enjoying seeing the experimentation that has been going on with people either trying new things or pushing the creative envelope in general)
What “classic mistakes” have you seen that you can’t believe that people are still making? (for me, it’s starting off talking about the topic. Again, you *can* pull it off, under certain meta or experimental circumstances… The other one that I’ve seen is not being able to stick the ending. Over the last few weeks there have been a few that I’ve gone “If they cut it off *there* it would have been 100% better!) Some of that is personal taste of course. But that’s all anyone has to go by, after all, their own personal taste about what they do and don’t like!
It’s not a question – but since we are in Week 4 I can now say that when I started the mini-season, given that it was a fundraiser, I wanted to make sure that I gave people as much of an opportunity to “get their money’s worth” as I could. That mental cut-off was Week 4. So, now things can start getting interesting!

Comments
Things I've liked: People are really laying it all on the table. I love the openness and honesty in some posts, and I love the fiction, too. Each person seems to be pushing themselves to try different and new things and I love it.
I'm a stickler for not having the topic word at all in your post ever if it's not going to feel natural. I just...don't like it. And I agree with Gary, too. Don't talk about the topic or what you're about to write about. Just write about it. ;) There are plenty of posts I had to push past that opening paragraph or so just to get to the meat of the entry. Give me the meat sooner, damnit. ;)
This topic's got me fuckin' stumped. Hit me up with brainstorming, guys.
Edited at 2013-02-12 02:37 pm (UTC)
I got a topic idea as soon as I read the prompt, I just hope it turns out! I was really glad to get it, too because I have lots going on this week, so I know won't have a lot of time to write.
Edited at 2013-02-12 02:46 pm (UTC)
Any thoughts on what you all might like to see me write?
This new one is a doozy. NO Thanks to whoever threw this one into the pot. I shouldn't have looked it up. Now I am stuck in the actual definition! Oh my stars!!! :)
In other news: HELLO, GREEN ROOM. THREE DAYS UNTIL I LEAVE FOR NEW JERSEY. FOUR DAYS UNTIL I SEE SEBASTIAN STAN'S FACE LIVE ON BROADWAY. I'M A LITTLE EXCITED.
I want to give shout outs to
I think that a lot of people are pushing themselves to write better, to write amazingly. I like that. I like it when it's clear that someone has taken an editorial hand to their own work--when none of the words or sections feel excessive or superfluous.
"Mistakes" that people are still making... Definitely starting off talking about the topic. This past week since I was still recovering from a virus and crunched for time, if people didn't draw me right in to something awesome, I probably only skimmed their piece. Endings are also problematic... although I'm a little more forgiving on that end. There are a few pieces where I've read them and felt like it was part of a serial and it wasn't working as a stand-alone piece. I think a lot of folks don't fully realize just how difficult it is to make a section of a serial that can stand alone--you, as the writer have this world in your head all the time, you remember what you wrote last week, because it's your baby; you forget that unstated information might not be obvious to a new reader. Really--I can't stress it enough--never, ever, ever assume that people have been reading your previous entries. If you're in doubt about whether something really works as a stand-alone, find someone who hasn't read your work before and ask!
Edited at 2013-02-12 03:45 pm (UTC)
My work can always use a round of editing, because I'm always either right up against the deadline, or right up against leaving for work, when I'll be at work at deadline-time. I am definitely impressed at the polished work I'm seeing, and I feel like I can only hope I will someday get to that point.
Okay, so now I want to take an informal poll: Would you rather see me do something along the blogging/autobiography lines, poetry or fiction? (This will probably determine which I try first, not necessarily which I end up with! :P)
Edited at 2013-02-12 04:11 pm (UTC)
Ok, now that's out of the way...
I really like the size of the group that we have. I have enough time to give everyone the attention they deserve (even though I still suck at commenting).
I've done more reading and less skimming than I did last season. And I've gotten involved in some discussions in comments, which was something we did a lot back in Season 4 and 5.
I think people have gotten better at writing pieces of larger works that stand alone.
That said, the 3 things I've seen that bugged me are 1. Feeling lost because I walked into something and I don't know who the character is or what they're talking about,
2. meta at the beginning of a piece. That really is harder to do well than people think.
3. The exact topic word or phrase in the entry. I've seen a couple of posts that were really good, and clearly fit the topic in a way that wasn't *whomp* in your face, and then right at the end the topic was inserted and it felt ruined.
I can't believe I misread the topic last night. I was getting excited about all the deep fried possibilities (I'm a southern girl). :P
Unfortunately, I live in an apartment in the city, and my lease doesn't allow dogs.
I have no idea what I'm going to write about this week, but I'm posting here anyway because I feel kind of lonely today.
Edited at 2013-02-12 04:11 pm (UTC)
The Hubble eXtreme Deep Field (XDF) is an image of a small part of space in the center of the Hubble Ultra Deep Field within the constellation Fornax, showing the deepest optical view in space. Released on September 25, 2012, it took 10 years to compile the images and shows galaxies from 13.2 billion years ago. The exposure time was two million seconds, or approximately 23 days. The faintest galaxies are one ten-billionth the brightness of what the human eye can see. The red galaxies are the remnants of galaxies after major collisions during their elderly years. Many of the smaller galaxies are very young galaxies that eventually became the major galaxies, like the Milky Way and other galaxies in our galactic neighborhood. The Hubble eXtreme Deep Field, or XDF, adds another 5,500 galaxies to Hubble's 2003 and 2004 view into a tiny patch of the farthest universe.
There are so. many. things. that can written about that.
The other thing I'm not liking this season is pieces that are rambly and unfocused, which is a good reminder for me, because I can get rambly sometimes.
Endings are hard. I always struggle with knowing where I should end a piece (and sometimes I have an ending in mind, but I keep writing and writing and writing and can't make my way to the ending, until finally I just have to cram it in there because Deadline!) Someone should teach a writing class devoted to endings.
Unfortunately, for reasons I'm still not clear on, I began this project with War and Peace.
Yeah. That didn't last long.
Classic mistakes I'm still seeing: forcing the topic into the piece when it doesn't naturally fit, and just plain doing the obvious! Lord knows I've been guilty of both a time or two, but that's what's still sticking out at me. Def not saying I'm a completely innocent party.
As for this current topic: It sorta reminds me of Weak Force from last season. At first, we were all like "WTF whut is this even!" and then it was just like "o okay, obscure ass science shit" and then everyone just sorta ran with it in a million different directions and, imnsho, that topic brought some of the best and most creative entries all season.
Ditto. If you're doing that, then you're not really using the prompt. And I'll second anyone who said to please avoid using the actual word/phrase of the prompt in the story itself!
It sorta reminds me of Weak Force from last season.
Me too. Which resulted in crack and the creation of the Quarketerium. This week's entry? After an hour or so of thinking, it headed off in the direction of crack too.
Because sometimes I can't help myself.
But hey, everything is now nice and shiny clean!
I really like the size of the group that we have. I have enough time to give everyone the attention they deserve (even though I still suck at commenting).
Yes, yes, YES :) The quality of writing this time around happily astounds me. I don't like saying that it's because it's the pay-to-play and that the more committed are here because the more committed would be here anyway...there have been many, many talented writers through the regular Idol seasons too.
I cannot stand being obvious with the topic to the point that it's mentioned it in the entry, or the need to obviously mangle an otherwise great entry in order to fit the topic. Whenever I run across something like that, all I can think of is 7th grade essay writing :boggle:
I'm also not a fan of serials. As others have already mentioned, it's very difficult for a reader to intimately know the characters as well as their author in a venue like Idol. If you're reading X number of entries every week, you're apt not to remember the continuing story and be less inclined to look at previous pieces to get caught up to speed.
Ack, this topic! I've thought and discarded a number of ideas already, but I'm still thinking about it...
This allows for some of these writers to finally get some attention, and deservedly so.
My good friend
And as far as committed goes, I stepped aside because I tend to be TOO committed and knew I just couldn't afford to let Idol take my entire focus away ;)
- High-context communication. In
- Non-fiction. I'm a lot more forgiving of B-level craft moments when the topic is honest, brave, and self-revelatory without necessarily being self-laudatory.
- Fiction that creates a world I'm deeply curious about, but doesn't waste time explaining the world at the beginning, so that I'm eager to piece it together as the story goes.
Stuff that bugs me -
- A ton of character description in the first few paragraphs. By all means clarify the basics so I'm not surprised your dude is 19th-century Chinese, or has long blonde hair if that's relevant, but "Susan brushed her long blonde hair and tightened the strings of her corset before donning a long green velvet dress that perfectly matched her eyes" feels like bad romance or worse porn.
- Fiction where the setting is more important than the characters or action - it's great to create a lavishly detailed planetary governing system or a biosphere full of exotic plants, but unless the plants are about to eat the House of Commons, save it for your 300,000 word trilogy.
- Self-laudatory non-fiction, whether it's "I'm a hero who totally saved the day" (unless it's leavened by humor or shows a character change) or "my life is so miserable gosh I had a horrible life feel sorry for meeeeeeee...." is the exact same kind of egotism in reverse.
Absolutely enjoying reading such a wonderful field of writers!
I agree with everything above. And I really should start commenting on people's entries, but I barely have time to answer my own comments.
Basically, if you don't know who Jazz, Savin, and Mitchel are, please hit me up and read over my entry (and offer me other beta critique). I THINK it's stand alone-able, but I know my world intimately, and so do my two friends who usually look over my stuff these days. And while events alluded to in this entry were shown in my entry for week 1, I don't expect anyone to remember THAT, either. ;)